Chris is on holiday, and the contract states that there must be at least three people on each episode, so Jon and Phil rope in The Guardian's Chief Sports Correspondent and club chess player Sean Ingle! He talks about his life in chess and journalism, and also gives Jon a game.

0:00 Intro

0:27 The hardest man in Luton

1:10 Jon Mackenzie vs Sean Ingle chess game (https://twitter.com/ChesspitPod/status/1230913955452899333)

1:39 Does Sean like the idea of a chess podcast?

2:19 Leeds United

4:51 Sean's early chess history

6:11 Sporting commentaries and Sean's current work

7:06 How did Sean get into sports journalism?

9:45 Sean's family history in boxing

12:05 Sports 'assistance'

19:25 Individual vs team sport

20:57 Sean at university

23:18 Lennox Lewis and Steve Davis

24:57 Magnus Carlsen playing 5-a-side

29:11 Hull City in the mid-1990's

30:57 Carlsen vs Caruana in The Guardian and the other media

46:27 Chess as an e-sport

49:27 Jon and Sean finish their game